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Use Flint River, Failed to Ensure Corrosion Control 10-4. Can't fit into a 40 second headline but will quote in web version. Best~ We agreed with the findings in the Auditor General's review. The findings align with our internal department review. We appreciate the Auditor General's work to provide a fair and well considered took at same key fosues. bs Brad Wurfel Communications Director, Michigan Department of Environmental Quality wurfelb@michigs

Use Flint River, Failed to Ensure Corrosion Control We agreed with the findings in the Auditor General's review. The findings align with our internal department review. We appreciate the Auditor General's work to provide a fair and well considered look at same key issues. b Brad Wurfal Communications Director, Michigan Department of Environmental Quality

Ensure Corrosion Control I did. Gladly, cause, you know, there's a hell of a lot more in that than how these two would like to paint things. Anyway, let me know if you *do* want to have a say - deadline 330p please and thanks. xxxEND_PAGE:executiveofficeemails20_b1314_3400_3403_1 Did you get a copy of the letter? Sent from my iPhone ° =) go oO fe) WN x I) oO = an g = eS On 2 a 5 Qa. a @Q we mn zB. = > A dds is) fe i ree ey ie, ies ia ‘aa cD ei foal Vv = 3 lo} = @ Hi Brad, Not sure if they're just late to the party or sitting on this or what (it's dated Dec 23rd) but editors have deemed this worthy of a couple spot news headlines today. Let me know if you'd like to comment. Best~ Date: Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:01 PM

Hi guys, I found the DEQ administrative rules that go with PA 399. Wondering, how difficult it would be to get a hold of the documents that transfer primacy from EPA to DEQ? That's something you're looking at, right Jim? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something relevant. Let me know. BTW, thanks for your time yesterday, I appreciate it. Best~

I'm traveling and won't be back until Wednesday afternoon. My cell is | PPI | est an.gov> wrote: ig: 3: Pulling in technical expertise. No need to FOIA, but this is out of my depth. Jim? Need your counsal here.

Hi Brad, hope you're better than Sunday night. I'm wondering if you can help me sort something out. So, there's some people who are familiar with EPA regs telling me that the state was required to approve the Flint River switch. They gaint to section 141.90 {a3}, which, in summary, says (on page 2 of this document): "At atime specified by the State, or if no specific time is designated by the State, then as early as possible prior to the addition of a new source or any long-term change in water treatment, a water system deemed to have optimized corrosion control... shall submit written documentation to the State describing the change or addition. The State must review and approve the addition of a new source or long-term change in treatment before it is implemented by the water system." And so I'm wondering can you show me where the state did this? If I have to FOIA, fine, but I'm not even sure what specifically I would put in the FOIA request. I'm trying to avoid the "these documents do not exist" response that Rep. Phelps got, know what I mean? I have his FOIA request and I'm pretty sure he was looking for the same thing, so I don't' want to duplicate. So I guess, my last question is, if these documents don't in fact exist, is it fair to assume that's because either the city never submitted written documentation to the state describing the change or addition or the state didn't review and approve the new source? It sounded from some MLive reports from back then that something like this was going on, I'm just not sure if it ever ended up happening, and if so, where's the documentation. Help? All the best, Lindsey Smith West Michigan Reporter Michigan Radio Office (618) michiganradio.org xxxEND_PAGE:deq19_b13_1016_1232_177

What has become clear in recent weeks is that staff believed they were handling the situation in accordance with the proper protocol for a water provider using a new source, but the federal Lead and Copper rule has a particular provision for communities over 50,000 people; that the system operator must continue treating with full corrosion control even as they test the water. What the staff did would have been the proper protocol for a community under 50,000 people. None of the DEQ staff in this division had ever worked on a water source switch for a community over 50,000 people — it’s uncommon for our big communities to switch sources. It’s increasingly clear there was confusion here, but it also is increasingly clear that DEQ staff believed they were using the proper federal protocol and they were not. The Governor will soon announce an independent, third party, after-action review to detail what happened and why, and offer steps to make sure Michigan’s drinking water program is on a better course in the future. There is substantial controversy over the lead and copper rule — the EPA has been working for years on ways to update it, and Michigan will be an active part of that conversation going forward. The situation in Flint is a snapshot of an issue affecting cities around the state and the nation. More than a dozen states reportedly use the sampling protocol Michigan uses — that’s not a defense of the protocol, but rather an indication that even experts on the issue disagree about the most effective testing methods. What everyone can agree on is that lead is a serious issue. And I think everyone can agree that when the state came to recognize that there could be a health threat in the city, we took appropriate action. We are now engaged in an unprecedented effort to protect kids and families in Flint, develop more knowledge about what has happened and how people were affected, and take steps to make sure it doesn’t happen again — in Michigan, or anywhere else. All the people who brought this issue forward deserve credit for bringing it to us. Our actions reflected inexperience, and our public response to criticism was the wrong tone early in this conversation. But the best we can do with the situation going forward is represented in our present course — the Governor’s plan represents all the suggestions outlined in the draft EPA memo, the Virginia Tech report, and the guidance we’ve gotten from EPA. We will learn from this. We will make necessary changes to see to it that our program becomes a national leader in protection. Sent from my iPhone xxxEND_PAGE:deq15_b263_0977_0977_1

on lead / copper tests for Flint Hit didn’t look like this, then you don't have everything. Pi even give you some exira stuff. Hang on.

Yo. I know you're having fun out on a boat and an enviro-friendly farm but Flint water just keeps draggin us down. The 2, 6 month monitoring periods were supposed to wrap up by June 30th to determine if Flint needed corrosion control treatment. When will the state determine that? (The EPA tells me Flint *will* do CCT - which I'm writing up now - does that mean you guys did decide recently it did need it?) Lastly, there's this notion that once the water gets switched to the new authority - with Huron water - one could make the case that this whole process starts a new. Will MDEQ insist on some kind of CCT once the switch to Huron water is made - or will we have to wait a year to study the issue again? I'm more interested in getting a response on the first set quickly, but the second set of questions is out there too, if you can clarify I'll include that info. Best~ Lindsey Smith West Michigan Reporter Michigan Radio Office (616) 551-0717 ichiganradio.ors xxxEND_PAGE:deq14_b0554_1888_1888_1

Hey!!! Jeff answered. They're working on a statement. Woop! Woop!

No luck yet with EPA. You got that Ann's number by chance? I tried looking her up but found nothing. If not no worries. Best~ Durr Heyo. Can we try to get something on the record today about Flint, now that you've had a chance to see that interim report? I'd also love to hear something on that LCR method thingy. Let me know what we can do please. Best~ Lindsey Smith West Michigan Reporter Michigan Radio Office (616) 551-0717 ‘2 xxxEND_PAGE:deq14_b0390_1570_1570_1

Heyo. Can we try to get something on the record today about Flint, now that you've had a chance to see that interim report? I'd also love to hear something on that LCR method thingy. Let me know what we can do please. Best~ Lindsey Smith West Michigan Reporter Michigan Radio Office (616) 551-0717 michiganradin.ore xxxEND_PAGE:deq14_b0389_1569_1569_1

Lindsey Smith West Michigan Reporter Michigan Radio Office (616) 551-0717 xxxEND_PAGE:executiveofficeemails20_b0755_2202_2202_1

What are the chances I could get some documentation about the 2009 loan that offered 50% forgiveness you mentioned? Was there an application? An approval letter or anything like that? Carmody asked Kildee about it this morning, so I'm writing something for this afternoon. Best~ xxxEND_PAGE:deq15_b130_0312_0313_2

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