DTMB OA/Messaging was able to determine that Liane’s August 25 e-mail to Lee-Anne Walters was
successfully delivered (see yellow highlighted text, below).
Date: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:31:48 AM
DTMB OA/Messaging was able to determine that Liane’s August 25 e-mail to
Lee-Anne Walters was successfully delivered (see yellow highlighted text, below).
Hi,
Ok, thanks - I'll be putting the feature together on Monday, so if you are able to line someone up Monday
morning, that'd be great.
Short of that - would you be able to answer a couple questions by email?
*What's the reasoning behind DEQ recommending the pre-flush? EPA doesn't prohibit it, but EPA just told us
they don't consider it a best practice, and others argue it can skew water tests for lead.
*Do you know whether most cities in Michigan follow the DEQ's pre-flush recommendations for water testing?
*Marc Edwards has pointed to a FOIAed document that notes the DEQ's recommendations for the length of
pre-flushing have increased from about a minute and a half in 1997 up to 5 minutes now. Why is that the case?
thanks!
Rebecca
Rebecca Williams
Senior Reporter
Michigan Radio
(734) 647-3497 desk
cell
Havent got anyone readily available for an interview.
We're reviewing the testing protocol as part of our internal review. When we've gat something to
announce, Pi let you know.
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ATT00003.htm; image004.png; ATTO0004.htm; 111315 Update and Health Fund
Request (Snyder).pdf; ATTOO005.htm; 10-6-2015 Response - Kildee.pdf;
ATT00006.htm
FYI
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
Thought folks might find these documents informative:
Attached to this message are a couple of documents that were prepared over a decade ago
that discuss excessive stagnation and sample invalidation under the LCR. They were
prepared in response to questions from the Washington Post and other news media about
invalidation of some samples collected in the Lansing Board of Water Light service area.
The first document is an internal memo that identifies language in the federal preamble to
and in EPA guidance for the LCR that discuss the need to collect samples from homes that
have experienced “typical residential water use during the day before the compliance
sample is collected.”
The second document is a report prepared to explain why we “invalidated” samples for
excessive stagnation in Lansing. It was in the aftermath of this event when EPA eliminated
the ability of state programs to invalidate sample results based on excessive stagnation that
ed the Michigan Public Water Supply Program to develop a recommendation that
communities advise residents participating in their compliance monitoring to flush the
designated sampling tap 6 to 8 hours before sample collection (the night before in most
cases) to ensure that this tap was not experiencing excessive periods of stagnation. We did
not want subsequent regulatory requirements to be imposed based on water quality
information that did not accurately reflect the regulatory intent. This briefing report also
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discusses the fact that the regulatory monitoring scheme was not intended to represent
human intake, but was based upon sampling a statistically significant number of residences
containing leaded plumbing materials as a measure of successful water treatment efficacy.
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Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 2:23:50 PM
FY|
George L. Krisztian
Flint Action Plan Coordinator
Laboratory Director
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
Desk ph (517) 284-6719
Cell ph (517) 420-5897
(Hedman).pdf
Follow up communication between fuldee and EPA on replacernent of lead service lines and the use of SRE dedlars.
Nothing that hasn't already been clarified te us by Susan and others at EPA, but sending so you have this in your files.
Maggie
10-6-2015 Response - Kildee.pdf
100615 SRF for Private Line Replacement (Hedman).pdf
Follow up communication between Kildee and EPA on replacement of lead service lines and the use
of SRF dollars. Nothing that hasn’t already been clarified to us by Susan and others at EPA, but
sending so you have this in your files.
Maggie
Steve asked that I add the address to the school. ] have done so on the attached version. I
also added page numbers.
Heather Feuerstein
Management Assistant to
Maggie Pallone, Deputy Director and
Brad Wurfel, Communications Director
Department of Environmental Quality
517.284.6715
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Attached is the latest data for Homeowner’s in Flint. The spreadsheet includes samples submitted to
the DEQ Lab from September 3" thru October 26".
- Of the 306 samples, 238 (77.7%) were at levels of 5ppb and lower for lead
- The 90" percentile value is 10 ppb
George
George L. Krisztian
Flint Action Plan Coordinator
Laboratory Director
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
Desk ph (517) 284-6719
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Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 6:53:51 AM
FYI
George L. Krisztian
Flint Action Plan Coordinator
Laboratory Director
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
Desk ph (517) 284-6719
Cell ph (517) 204-0381
FYI
George L. Krisztian
Flint Action Plan Coordinator
Laboratory Director
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
Desk ph (517) 284-6719
Cell ph (517) 204-0381
FY!
George L. Krisztian
Flint Action Plan Coordinator
Laboratory Director
Michigan Department of Environmental | Quality
Desk ph (517) 284-6719
Cell ph (517) 204-0381
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 7:29 PM
Before the switch —
1.b. The city of Flint hired consultants to evaluate the ability to treat water from the Flint River. Their consultants
produced a report entitled “Analysis of the Flint River as a Permanent Water Supply for the City of Flint” dated July
2011. DEQ received a copy of this report in March 2013. DEQ staff did meet with city officials and their consultants
during 2013 to discuss needed water treatment plant upgrades based on the report.
2. The city operated the water treatment plant as a backup/emergency plant for many years. During this time, the plant
was operated in test mode quarterly to ensure that it would function in an emergency and to demonstrate that it could
produce safe drinking water . During these test runs, raw water and treated water were sampled for many
parameters. An evaluation for corrosion control, however, was not completed.
After the switch —
6. On August 23, 2015 Dr. Edwards informed DEQ staff that he was initiating a study of Flint water quality issues to
complement the sampling that was conducted by the city under the Lead and Copper Rule. Dr. Edwards’ study was
performed after the notification by DEQ on August 17, 2015 to the City of Flint that the city is required to install
corrosion control in accordance with the lead and copper rule requirements. The DEQ determination made following
the regulatory protocol under the lead and copper rule and the study performed by Dr. Edwards reached similar
conclusions.
Liane J. Shekter Smith, P.E., Chief
Office of Drinking Water and Municipal Assistance
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
517-284-6543
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Date: Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:23:00 PM
Before the switch —
1.b. The city of Flint hired consultants to evaluate the ability to treat water from the Flint River.
Their consultants produced a report entitled “Analysis of the Flint River as a Permanent Water
Supply for the City of Flint” dated July 2011. DEQ received a copy of this report in March 2013.
DEQ staff did meet with city officials and their consultants during 2013 to discuss needed water
treatment plant upgrades based on the report.
2. The city operated the water treatment plant as a backup/emergency plant for many years.
During this time, the plant was operated in test mode quarterly to ensure that it would function in
an emergency and to demonstrate that it could produce safe drinking water . During these test
runs, raw water and treated water were sampled for many parameters. An evaluation for corrosion
control, however, was not completed.
After the switch —
6. On August 23, 2015 Dr. Edwards informed DEQ staff that he was initiating a study of Flint water
quality issues to complement the sampling that was conducted by the city under the Lead and
Copper Rule. Dr. Edwards’ study was performed after the notification by DEQ on August 17, 2015 to
the City of Flint that the city is required to install corrosion control in accordance with the lead and
copper rule requirements. The DEQ determination made following the regulatory protocol under
the lead and copper rule and the study performed by Dr. Edwards reached similar conclusions.
Liane J. Shekter Smith, P.E., Chief
Office of Drinking Water and Municipal Assistance
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
517-284-6543
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Work in process, but we wanted you to have what we’ve completed/addressed.
Before switch —
4. Staff believed that it was appropriate to monitor for two 6-month rounds of sampling to determine if additional
measures were necessary. Based on the sampling performed, the city is required to install corrosion control treatment
(see August 17, 2015 letter).
Decisions regarding cost are made by the utility.
5. No. A pilot test was not required or conducted. Staff believed that it was appropriate to monitor for two 6-month
rounds to determine if additional measures would be necessary.
After switch —
1. We consulted with city staff regarding complaints. They reported that it was difficult to verify the complaints;
i.e., when they tried to sample at locations that had problems they couldn’t reproduce the results. In addition,
city crews were performing more hydrant flushing to improve water age in the system and flow patterns were
altered as a result of valve repair and replacement; and both of these are expected to increase taste, odor and
color concerns. In addition, there is no reason for staff to conclude that a TTHM problem would suggest there is
a corrosion issue.
2. GM indicated that chloride concentrations no longer met their limit for manufacturing. DEQ staff evaluated
chloride levels in the Flint treated water and determined that while they were higher in the Flint supply than
previously when on DWSD water, they were well within acceptable ranges in accordance with EPA guidelines.
3. No. Staff believed that it was appropriate to monitor for two 6-month rounds of sampling to determine if
additional measures were necessary.
4. No. This was believed to be a site specific/unique condition and staff considered it resolved once the lead
service line was replaced.
5. It did. EPA and DEQ consulted. In addition, following the completion of the two 6-month rounds of monitoring
the data indicated that additional measures are necessary and the city is required to install corrosion control
treatment.
Liane J. Shekter Smith, P.E., Chief
Office of Drinking Water and Municipal Assistance
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
517-284-6543
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